Don McIntosh Transcript
In 1986-1987 July discovered a Psychic Medium that someone had recommended.
She had gone to him a couple of times and found what he had to say quite
informative and suggested I go. I was somewhat skeptical but did
find it an interesting experience. This is a transcript of the
audio tape from my
visit with Don McIntosh.
Don McIntosh Transcript
June 5, 1987
Larry: Well I been
reading some and trying to learn more about lately past lives and karma
and that kinda things, I have earlier in my life I went throughout a
religious period I was brought up real religious, Baptist religion,
and I kinda after high school went through a real rebellious period
and investigated a lot of other religions. I guess spirituality now,
I don't believe in organized religion, but I do see that there is
something there and whether its karma or a sprit I not really sure about
that and so I kinda .
Don:
In terms of the higher forms then?
Larry: Yeah, so I haven't really on
my own decided what things are but I have a feeling that there is something
there. I'm not clear in real definite terms what I really do believe
in.
Don:
Ok, karma? how are your familiar with that?
Larry: I guess, I have run across the term
and have done a little of reading about it but I'm not quite sure
how you would define it I guess.
Basically it is neutral force that is a check an balance on each person
spirituality to keep us all honest, what ever you do goes out and comes
back in like time. Not always at the same time, the spirit responsible
for that reserves the right to send it back at the time they choose
not that you prefer. Usually they pick the time it hits the hardest
or you don't forget it. When they send it back. But essentially
it's to go along with what how you treat other people comes back
to you the same way. You treat them well then other people do good things
for you later. If you give somebody a hard time it comes back to you
and kind of puts you on the receiving end of what you are sending out.
To educate you to teach you or show you make you more aware as to how
it feels, how the circumstances are, how you handle it from your side
of things, to think first then act, essentially, or to think, or think
what is the best way to handle any give situation then do it the most
equitable manner, from there. So its more to teach you or to make you
aware of things then to give you a hard time. But even though its neutral
by nature it tend to be negative or you overlook the positive when it
comes back. You don't always recognize it. The negative is what
tends to stand out more than the lessons. It can accrue from one lifetime
to another, and be carried over and in that context there are many possible
life times that you can live in that are by your choice. It may be one
lifetime spiritually, one spirit, but many physical bodies. And I can
of relate it to the same way as in this life time in that usually will
have more than one automobile during the course of a physical lifetime
and they may change roles, may change colors, may change sex, you can
be male or female in different life times. And it's kind of to give
you a view of from both sides of things so that you get a better balance.
With that, That is on going like a chain of lives. And there may be
future lives as well yet to be occur. This may be seven in a chain of
nine. The key is that there is that you can get out but you have to
been in balance to get out. You have to be fairly aware, fairly unburdened,
fairly well advanced in different areas to not have to come back. And
once you get here it very hard, even if you keep your act straight,
its very hard not to get pulled into other people's things because
of the patterns on the earth. Its like they brought everything in together
even if you are doing very well it hard not to run in some karma in
relationship to other people. The hole key of it is to be aware of it,
to be in control, for you to choose and direct and to use that choice
in a preventive way before things occur, not after the fact. Then it
would sound very well. Now, parts of the chart will indicate the karma
record and logs from past lives and lessons to be learned this life
time. Just like a school that you have enrolled in and that's the
course work to be taken. That is enforced by the transients of the planets,
and presented to you in terms of situations or experiences as transients
move. Planets have different paces, and I think I will give you that
logically first to start out. The moon changes every two and a half
days, so it moves very quickly through a sign. Jupiter takes one year
to go through. Saturn has a two and a half year cycle. Mercury, Mars,
and Venus move fairly short any where from four weeks to ten weeks in
their normal setting. So they move very fast. The Sun takes a month.
But the larger planets, Uranus takes seven years, Pluto takes fourteen
to go through a sign, and Neptune twenty one. They influence a whole
generation at a time and must more gradually in your life then say the
moon which would change moods or emotional cycles every two or three
days. As the planets move, look at it as your a center wheel and the
planets are maybe 12 different wheels revolving at different levels,
at a different pace, based on their own natural timing. As they move
about they make what are called aspects to the birth chart positions.
Some of the aspects are favorable, such as the conjunctions usually,
the trines or 120 degrees are very favorable, the sextiles bout 60 degrees
are very favorable. The trines are the best everything goes smoothly,
harmoniously, when they are in operation. So even though the planet
has the identical same energy, based on the angle that it is making
to those birth chart fixed positions make a big difference on how it
affecting you at that time or for that time range. The negative aspects
are usually the squares or 90 degrees. When the planets are at a square
angle it is a challenge, an obstacle, lessons to be learned, problems
to be dealt with. The oppositions are 180 degrees are problems but internal
in nature. The squares are external things opposed on you not by choice.
Adjustments to be made. The oppositions are more inner stress. Making
you grow. Pulling you in different directions and making you choose
one or the other. They may occur in the birth chart. Now the aspects
will be the same, have the same definition and meanings. Some are in
the birth chart. It contains a whole file taken from any from any one
planet the mathematical angle or degree to each other planet. That shows
the relative positive, neutral, or negative balance of energy of those
two planets and whether they get along well in harmony or conflict in
the energy flow. That is internalized though. That is built in, within
you response system and subconscious mind at the time of birth when
you start breathing. So it is a question here of how much free will
do we have? You have free will at any time, but these internal energy
patterns are already set or balanced. Some in balance and in tune and
some out of balance and in tune. So that they are affecting you until
you change them or alter them through your conscious free will.
Larry: So you can choose then, through
your free will to make a different path. But you have those kind of
built in to start with.
Don:
Right. This is what you start with based on the karma record from the
past lives. And what ever lessons that are needed in this life. But
as soon as you are aware of that you able to change those by changing
your own internal structural patterns and balances. Then your free will
you don't have to accept them but you have to make the conscious
changes to apply.
Ok. Now we have two major sets occurring from the chart to deal with.
One is the individual transients occurring in the present time. From
that we get two sets of angles. One set of angles where the planets
are in relation to themselves, today, next month, next year, three years
ago, whatever. That will be changing constantly, just like a Kaleidoscope
wheel. Because all those timing mechanisms are different, there not
the same. So its like they all have a race track, but they revolve around
it at a different time. Some of them will turn more laps than others,
especially the moon or the quicker moving planets. OK. Those angles
to themselves, lets say today on today we looked the planets in the
ephemeris to see where they are. They have plus or minus patterns to
the base energy systems. Each planet controls a basic fundamental energy
range. Positive and negative. Then depending on the angles or aspects
that they are making today or next month or a year from now, they will
add plus or minus to that if the circuit pattern is positive, it is
positive angles such as the trines or sextiles, then it will enhance
the energy and make it more powerful, if it is a square it depletes
it and may make it abrupt or stop or stop or go thorough extremes. So
the circuit that they goes through is the conductor or conveyer of the
energy and that does have an effect on the overall flow of energy. Very
much like a garden hose or the adjustment on it or sprinkler. So that
it can be controlled by knowing what it is or choosing the timing to
do things.
Then we have another set of aspects that are very important. The planets
are out there today they could care less about me or anyone else. They
are in their own timing pattern, their own eclipse, orbit, they don't
worry about people. But, there is a bridge of energy that is transferred
by the angles that are making to your birth chart planets at the time
of birth. That focuses that energy through a complex filter system to
you as an individual. Even thought it may be the same day, same planets,
the same energy, ten different people can be affected in different ways
by that original flow of energy because of that filter system. The angles
that are made to the birth planets from the transient planets become
very important because that's how you forecast. That what triggers
the trines and cycles. It doesn't make things happen but presents
them to you. It's like going to the school under ?? and these are
the courses that will be offered at this time and you determine if you
take the easy course or the hard course from that point. But its offered
in that time range to you and you have to take or deal with. One way
or anther. If you refuse by your free will, you say well I don't
want to take that, I'm not interested in that, that course doesn't
look so good to me. And they have it scheduled at time range then they
figure by default you'll take it in the harder class because you
didn't exercise the free will. So you always have a choice in that
regard. Those aspects there also is another one that called an in conjunct
aspect that is about a 150 degrees. So we have the sextile which is
positive at 60 degrees. That is something where things work very well
but you have to a little work to finish it out. Like somebody gives
you something and doesn't cost very much but you have supply a little
effort yourself to get the full benefit from it. The trine brings everything
to you very easily based on what has been done or reserved in a past
life and in the past of this life. So you have already earned it and
its a bonus coming through to help you. The squares are always lessons
and changes and problems. Their the hassles. The squares are when the
planets go to square angles or when the energy just doesn't go right.
No matter what you try to do.
Larry: So what one's of these then
are in my chart.
Don:
You have all. The in conjunct angle is 150 degrees and you have quite
of few of those too which is unusual.
Larry: And those mean what?
Don:
They are neutral angles but they are the only one. That would be from
Aquarius, planets Venus and Mars to Cancer the Uranus the ascending
and Cancer that's about 150 degrees apart. Those are destiny angles,
or fate angles. Where they can go positive or negative depending on
your attitude and how your are doing. I call them windows that the spirits
can open up and look through, check us out, see what we need, how we're
doing and make adjustments. With out asking us about it or telling us.
And the more of those you have the more your life tends to run at that
higher plane. You got quite a few because you got the Mercury at the
in conjunct and Uranus in ascending as well. Then you got the Jupiter
from Taurus to the Saturn and Neptune in Libra and the Jupiter to the
Mercury. So you have an inter-locking series of those. Much of which
is destined in your life already. So in your case which is a little
bit different because of the diversity of the chart, some are more concentrated
so they don't have that effect as much. There on one side of the
Zodiac. Your, Much of your experiences were pre-chosen and pre-destined
so you have the special amendment to modify or adapt those. You can't
just walk right out and change them all around. It has to be cleared
with the spirit first and then they will approve or disapprove it either
way.
Ok. For some examples. Lets take the moon with the in conjunct to your
Pluto. The Moon rules your emotions, the flow of your emotions, your
personality, habit patterns, and the subconscious, and how you deal
with the public, or interact in public roles. The in conjunct with Pluto
is pretty close. The Moon is at 21 degrees and Pluto at 22 so its very
tight. That means that your emotional experiences in life are already
set and programmed and destined. It's like they were already in
the computer before you got there. Then you respond to those. You can
amend or modify them. To give you an example lets say the original set
was not an easy set of experiences. You would have a harsher range of
emotional experiences through certain portions of your life. Partly
because of the Pisces Moon and because you were sheltered and protected
in some ways but more sensitive than other people in others. So it kind
of balanced out there. They gave you some protection but they also gave
you a harder range of experiences at times then what you would like
to have had. Especially in emotions, physical and personal life, and
romantic side of life. That has been amended. And this is a karma check
now to show how this works. Last year Jupiter went through Pisces. Jupiter
rules good fortune, expansion, good luck, opportunity, success, happiness,
spontaneity, and growth. Spiritually. As it crossed through Pisces and
crossed your Moon it modified that whole range of emotional experiences
from the past an approved it vastly for the future coming ahead. So
it gave you a lighter range, an easier range, a happier range, lets
say for the 21 period ahead then what you would had originally. It modified
and adjusted that without bothering to ask you about it because of the
angle.
OK. Another one would be the Venus and Mars at the in conjunct to the
Uranus and ascending. The ascending is your external image. The way
you appear physical, size, eye color, hair color, the way people see
you and respond to you in real life. It also sets the physical timing
pace in motion. So that everything starts with the ascending time clock
and then executes on the physical plane or comes about at the physical
plane. The Venus and Mars there indicates that your personal life, your
romantic life, and your physical life, all were pre-destined and chosen
and selected by you in such a way that they would change frequently
or quickly so you didn't get too board and it would not be an average
cut of the mill, run of the mill, existence in either of those areas
because of the Uranus being evolved and being close to the ascending.
Uranus is the unusual the unexpected, change, surprise, sudden happenings,
high power energy, rebellion, independence, creativity, coming from
you super conscious mind and the future. Uranus is the energy lane into
the future that controls that. The Venus and Mars at that angle to Uranus
indicated that you didn't want a normal homegrown existence. You
wanted something unique or unusual in those areas or sections of your
life. Also you wanted or requested an unusual image, not like everybody
else. So that the role that you would play in life would be distinctive
or different. OK.
Larry: Do I have any trines and squares?
Don:
Yes. You have several of each. You have the Pluto trine to Mercury.
From Leo to Sagittarius And the trines always in like elements of signs
which are very compatible. Fire to fire, air to air, water to water,
earth to earth. They get along better than the others. The Pluto trine
to Mercury means that the mental range of experiences was already planed
and selected and edited by you. Mental growth, the education, the learning,
the knowledge, before you ever got here.
Larry: I choose that in a previous life?
Don:
Right. And earned it from what you have built up in a previous life
and what you have done previously. So that you got a relatively smooth
flow in progress there. At least at the mental range. Because the Mercury
is in Sagittarius it moves quicker than it would have if would have
it were in Scorpio or Capricorn So it is a fairly quick moving, quick
flowing mental range for you with that. It's pretty good. I locked
in. It means that nobody can change it or affect that to the adverse.
And it had to be approved and edited by you.
Now you also have the midheaven in Aries which is part of which is called
grand trine in the fire signs. Of course you have one planet in each
of the fire signs. So we have three interlocking trines. We have the
midheaven to the Pluto, Pluto to the Mercury, and Mercury to the midheaven.
That gives you, as long as you are starting are initiating anything,
a natural selection and choice of pretty much what you want at the beginning,
not at the end. You do better at beginnings and startings then endings.
In the end your on your on. At the beginning you have spiritual protection
that gives you what you seek or ask for. So it's much to your advantage
to start frequent time cycles and always be starting fresh or starting
over. You'll always come out much better.
Larry: That's kinda what I have done
in the past.
Don:
Now. The Mercury trine to midheaven indicates a good mental flow in
working working with you in harmony to get you want to go, to get what
you would like. Your mind is helpful if it works, is very finely tuned,
it has a inner since of timing and intuition and it works very favorable
to meet the natural desires of the midheaven. Midheaven represents your
natural self, your spiritual self. Who you are, why your here, your
natural talents, abilities, what your good at what you do best, what
you like, what you don't like. And the important events in your
life, birth, deaths, if you get married, get divorced, start a job,
go to school, if you graduate, all of those are controlled with the
spiritual timing flow by that midheaven. The midheaven is pretty much,
if you have the choice, what you really like to be or do in your life.
So it's kind of the inner you. It is also the person you are becoming
as you go through this life of experience. So you would have started
out as Capricorn Sun sign on the cusp. The sun represents the basic
self or character and who you been in the past plus who you are this
time. On the cusp you have both, you have the Capricorn and the Sagittarius
you will change back and forth. The Capricorn would be more serious.
Would respond in practical, money, finical, job or work situations,
material world situations. Sagittarius would be more of a philosopher,
more in the education end of things, or mental flow. And you would just
alternate or change base on the environment or mood that your were in.
Ok.
Now, the influence there is such that the midheaven is the person you
are becoming at the end of this life. Having gone through this set of
experiences plus what you started with. So, it's like if we could
project you ahead, to the older partner of your life you would become
more like an Aries than a Capricorn by going though this life.
Larry: Then what is an Aries like?
Don:
Aries is quicker, they are lighter, more humorous, more confident, more
control, they start everything well, they have abundant of energy at
beginning of everything. Capricorn is a harder way to go than the Aries.
So you are improving or refining and doing better as you go through.
The midheaven always give you what you want up front. So it's like
the lesson used to know when to leave or quit with anything. When to
change or recycle it. As long as you recycle it works fine. If you get
on too long a time frame then your on your own.
Larry: I tend to, as I said before, about
every three to five years I change things (that's good) change jobs
(for Aries that's good) places to live and so forth. It's always
been through that kind of cycle. After about three to four years at
something I tend to get really fed up with it and want that kind of
change.
Don:
Ok. That is the Sagittarius part of you too that gets restless too.
But that's good, in your case that could not be better. Change is
favorable. Then we got the Venus and Mars from Aquarius trine the Saturn
and Neptune from Libra. And the Venus is personal life, love and romance
in your life, creative talents, abilities, aesthetic harmony and beauty.
Mars is your behavior, your actions, your energy, initiative and drive,
the physical plane of events in your life. What you start or what you
initiate. Saturn is the discipline, the lessons, the restrictions, problems,
hassles, concentration, hard work and karma to be paid. Neptune is more
the spiritual idealism. In terms of music that motivates your, things
that move you, colors that your like, things that elevate your spirit
or uplift your spirit come from Neptune. The negative side is confusion,
disillusion, and depression. When you are a place that you don't
belong or where you don't really feel comfortable, or where you
don't fit that is negative Neptune. Because you are at the long
floor and the wrong level. And that is the spiritual warning system
going on to let you know. That in essence helps out the personal life.
What has been done here because of the Aquarius influence which is the
future, you have pre chosen every person that you would deal with on
the physical plane or relate to romantically in your life. From the
future check list not from the past. It's like jury selection, as
the best way that I can describe it. When you are a spirit before you
arrive here, you often have a choice as to who want to deal with. What
family that you want to be in, who you want to be married to, who you
want have children with, who want for boyfriends or girl friends, or
romantic interests, or relationships along the way. Brothers and sisters,
family members, who ever, all that usual comes from a past check list
of people owe you or you owe them from the karma.
In your case your case you picked them from a future check list of people
you were going to deal with in a future life. You felt that was safer
than then from the past because they didn't have a karmic mortgage
or claim on you. And you felt that if it was going reasonable well in
the future life then there was no reason why it shouldn't go fairly
well now. That was smart. The Capricorn was not allowed to do that,
the Sagittarius part was. Capricorn does more with the past, Sagittarius
with the present so the Sagittarius could link the bridge from the present
to the future.
Larry: Is it a good thing to be on the
cusp like that.
Don:
I think it is better because it gives you the choice or option or both
dimensions to choose from. What ever is best for any given situation.
So if you use it or not you have wider range or selection than if you
are born in the middle of the sign. Ok. Now that relative guarantees
that part of your life goes reasonable well and smoothly most times.
As long as you keep everything in balance and harmony. And they are
pre chosen from the future. We also have the Moon at a trine angle to
the Uranus and the ascending. From Pisces to Cancer. Now, the Pisces
moon I going to explain a little about that for you.
Your two most sensitive moon placements are Pisces and Cancer. For a
male to have a Pisces moon is no pick nick. In emotional context because
you have a equal sensitivity or more so to what most females would carry
around. And since you are as a male to a rougher range of experiences
normally, it is that much more difficult on you. The Pisces moon is
very giving emotionally, very kind, is one of the better placements
but is hard on you. Its good for everybody else but hard on you. It
likes do things for people, its very responsive to other peoples needs,
its very selfless. It looks to other people first before your own emotional
needs. It takes care you last in many cases. Its very giving, and its
very worthwhile, it fairly spiritual, aware and oriented with that placement.
Now we have a combination here, that I am going to show how it works
from the varied aspects. The moon trine the Uranus and the ascending,
indicates that you have it written in spiritual contracts that no emotional
shocks or surprises. You like to at least like know things in advance,
you have an advance radar or warning system of what ever is happening
emotionally. You didn't want or like surprises so you demanded that
they not be delivered that way. The Uranus trine says Ok, well allow
it, essentially will let you know ahead of it ahead time or will give
you a radar screen from your own equipment. But its very quick. Emotional
impulse that would be very fast protecting you. Whether you pay attention
to or not, the spirits are very comical about it.